Do either of them have a lego logo? If not I’d say they are offbrand. Never seen either of these. 🤔

Yes! They do both have them! I actually doubted the small one, but it's flat silver and it does indeed have the logo. I'd say its maybe 2014 - 2018 range. The white bracket is slightly yellowed, and I'd say it's from the 1986 - 1999 range.

Interesting. I’ll do some looking.

Thanks! For sizes, the White one has a standard 2x3 plate, with the plate on top being about 1x3. The small one is maybe 2 studs long.

That white part is really weird… I‘ve never seen it before. I also guess it‘s from around the 80s.

Thank you! Now to just find that elusive white part...