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Hi. I think that we should change our name. Brickipedia sounds kinda clunky, why not go with "Legowikia" instead? Other ideas would be welcomed :) Ajraddatz (Talk) 23:43, February 8, 2013 (UTC)

LEGOpedia/Legopedia

  • I honestly don't like this name :P, but just to throw it out there, yeah. Ninja Head StealthNinja Contact [[Special:Editcount/LSCStealthNinja|Special:Editcount/LSCStealthNinja Edits]]

Brickipedia/LEGOpedia/Legopedia

  • Honestly, all I want is "Legopedia" or "Brickipedia". --Czech 01:05, February 9, 2013 (UTC)
  • ^ Ninja Head StealthNinja Contact [[Special:Editcount/LSCStealthNinja|Special:Editcount/LSCStealthNinja Edits]]
  • Legopedia could be good. Ajraddatz (Talk) 01:15, February 9, 2013 (UTC)

Support

LEGOWikia? BrickiWikia? Sounds good to me. -Cligra Join the redlink war!

  • I think BrickWiki would be something to put up for option as well... klagoerRollinglaughingsmileyname that user 03:04, February 9, 2013 (UTC)
  • I absolutely hate our name now. Anyone can apply my vote to anything else, just get rid of it please (and thank you). --Berrybrick (Talk) 20:52, February 10, 2013 (UTC)

Oppose

  • LEGOWikia and LEGOpedia would be infringing on LEGO's intellectual property rights because the trademarked name "LEGO" is appended to the name. I suggest we do not use "LEGO" in the name due to this. Why? LEGO has been known be proactive in enforcing their proprietary rights (including, but not limited to: copyrights and trademarks). Also, the Web Host can shut down the site if there is a complaint on IP rights. No, I am not being pessimistic about things, I'm just being realistic keeping legalities in mind. Any ideas on how we can evade this, yet have a search engine-friendly site name? Skdhjf(Talk!) 01:55, February 9, 2013 (UTC)
    • Skdhjf is correct. That's also why we have "BrickCon" and "Brickworld" instead of LEGOcon and LEGOworld. However, if you do search Lego wiki, this comes up, I'm guessing it'll be the same even off Wikia.—Unsigned comment by ErkelonJay (talk • contribs).
    • Thanks for
    • But the German version of here is called LEGOpedia..! - nxt

Concerns about the timing

Ajraddatz, if you don't like the name Brickipedia, the discussion should be about what you are going to call the new wiki if you go ahead with the fork. And that conversation should be on the move discussion pages, or on the new wiki itself. Unless you are being disingenuous of course, and really mean that you want to try and change the name here so that you can use Brickipedia on the fork without it duplicating this wiki's name.... -- sannse (help forum | blog) 23:53, February 8, 2013 (UTC)

Honestly, I wasn't trying to be "disingenuous", but I don't think both sites should have the same name. When the Fallout Wiki left, they changed the name of the Wikia site. Ultimately, it doesn't affect search results, but when people are looking for Brickipedia then they should be directed to the place where the community associated to that name is. Ajraddatz (Talk) 23:55, February 8, 2013 (UTC)
Actually, on a completely neutral note changing the wiki's name to something with "LEGO" in it would probably aid the search results, since Google would associate searches for "lego blah blah blah" more easily with this site. Also, your post is off-topic and quite honestly undesired, so if you have issues with stuff that I do take it to skype/email and stop filling up our local discussions with it. Ajraddatz (Talk) 23:58, February 8, 2013 (UTC)
Then perhaps that is something you should consider when choosing the name for your fork.
My comment was most certainly not off-topic, I'm talking about your idea to change the name of this wiki (and your motivations for it)
On your comparison with Fallout, each situation is different, and needs careful thought and discussion. To give a counter example, Uncyclopedia has not and will not be changing name. So let's put this on hold for now and have the discussion (if we need to) once things have settled down again and the new/remaining community here have had a chance to consider what they want. -- sannse (help forum | blog) 00:06, February 9, 2013 (UTC)
How about no. Ajraddatz (Talk) 00:08, February 9, 2013 (UTC)
  • From what I see, I don't see that there will be much of a community here once we leave, and seing as we are the current community here, I see no reason why we can't rename. I quite like 'Brickiwikia'. - nxt
There may or may not be much of one if you leave, but there will be one in the future. And, on their behalf, I can't allow you to potentially harm this wiki in order to benefit another (which I assume you plan to call "Brickipedia", despite what Aj said above about wanting to use something less "clunky") -- sannse (help forum | blog) 00:27, February 9, 2013 (UTC)
lol. What "harm"? I didn't spend years on this site to want it completely ruined, nor am I going to leave completely after the move. If you really want to continue to stop the legitimate workings of this community, I really can't stop you. But I'm sure this topic will come up again. Ajraddatz (Talk) 00:45, February 9, 2013 (UTC)
Since this forum has just devolved from a community discussion to Sannse telling us what to do, I might as well take the time to point out that a name refers to a group of people. When people left England to found a colony in the new world, they didn't call it England. They called it New England :D. But I'm sure that if everyone left England, they might have continued to consider themselves "English". But IDK. Ajraddatz (Talk) 00:53, February 9, 2013 (UTC)
Our path of action is clear now: we must call ourselves "New Brickipedia"! :P -- BrickfilmNut Productions!
Heck, New South Wales is technically south of Wales, ad it is new! :D --Czech 01:05, February 9, 2013 (UTC)
Aj, I don't know what harm, that's really the point. You started this discussion by saying you wanted a new name for this wiki because Brickipedia is "clunky", But, from what I understand, you actually want to use that name on your new wiki - and that's why you want to change it here. So what I'm saying is please put a hold on the idea, until this can be discussed without the complication of a potential immanent fork -- sannse (help forum | blog) 01:57, February 9, 2013 (UTC)
If you "don't know what harm", then may I inquire on why did you brought it up? O.o Also, if we did change the name here to a distasteful name so we could use the "Brickipedia" on another wiki, that wouldn't cause any "harm" to this wiki or the future community which adopts this wiki. I mean, it's not like we're putting a 800x800px banner on the front page reading: "Go to <link>!". If the future community wants to revert the name to its old name after we changed it, so be it. Edit: Also, I don't think Ajr was saying we should change the name here to a new name. Wasn't he referring to changing the name for our forked site? O.O Skdhjf(Talk!) 02:03, February 9, 2013 (UTC)
No, I was talking about this site. Sorry for not being clear at first. Ajraddatz (Talk) 02:35, February 9, 2013 (UTC)
Sannse, with all do respect, it really isn't up to you (or us, for that matter) if we can change this wiki's name or not. If the community would like the name to be changed, the name can be changed. If not, then it stays the same, and it won't be because you tell us what to do. It isn't up to you to regulate what we can discuss here, and when- and I certainly dislike the implications that your opinion is more important than ours. Staff and admin opinions don't take precedence over a community vote. (and if they did, that's certainly not a Wiki I would like to stay on) -Cligra Join the redlink war!
  • Heck, the way I see it let's change this places name. (That is if Wikia would let us...) And Sannse why would it matter if we changed our name on this site? If it is a community agreement to change the name why is Wikia so concerned? There is nothing wrong with a name change if it is a community vote... klagoerRollinglaughingsmileyname that user 03:03, February 9, 2013 (UTC)
  • I haven't read the rest of this yet, but before I do, can I say that I believe in the past renames during moves have been fine. To keep flogging the same horse, when Wikisimpsons moved, I stayed for a few days and renamed it Simpsons Wiki, at their request, and all was dandy. ~ CJC 12:39, February 9, 2013 (UTC)
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