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Just wanted to say, but many Brickipedia users are on discord and it is useful to discuss wiki matters with admins as they are on their a lot. So, it would be a good idea for you to join Brickipedia's discord. (P.S. Honestly I am not sure if you are on Discord or not, so just sending you the link.) Wiki Discord link --Bjsjkw (Talk) 8:19 PM (UTC)

Jailbreak Joe

Isn't Jailbreak Joe and Crazy Charlie supposed to be one page, even though they are different names, as that is the case with many other minifigures? As far as I can see, they are one character given two different names. --Bjsjkw (Talk) 11:12 PM (UTC)

If you can show me an official LEGO source (preferably one predating the internet, since prevalent fan websites tend to create the problem of circular reporting in more recent LEGO publications; see errors such as Dojo and Kata being mixed up in LEGO Minifigure Year By Year) where the original 1993 minifigure with grey pants is directly referred to as "Jailbreak Joe", then I will concede on this point and agree that it is one character with multiple names (as is very common for LEGO in the 1990s).
However, from my own digging, I haven't found a source earlier than 1995 (the debut of the white pants-wearing minifigure) that uses the name "Jailbreak Joe", and nothing that refers to the grey pants-wearing minifigure by that name. Therefore, I'm inclined to believe that they are two similar-but-separate characters, similar to how the modern City theme has multiple nearly-identical crooks such as Verne and Mr. Crook. --PeabodySam (talk) 23:28, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
I must say that Verne and Mr. Crook do look similar but are still different minifigures but Jailbreak Joe and Crazy Charlie are exactly the same design-wise, and it could just be renaming too right? They even have the same prison no. --Bjsjkw (Talk) 11:33, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
Verne and Mr. Crook (specifically the grey-hatted variant) are identical except for the pants... so are Jailbreak Joe (specifically the hatless variant) and Crazy Charlie, so you really can't say that one case is "similar but different" and the other is "exact the same". Yes, Joe and Charlie do have the same prison number, but so does the Brickster; you'll also notice that there are many other crooks with identical numbers despite being different characters, so it just comes down to LEGO producing one torso print for multiple characters without any canonical significance. --PeabodySam (talk) 23:41, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
There is a difference in the color of pants for Crazy Charlie and Jailbreak Joe, but one of them only appears in one 1993 set. --Bjsjkw (Talk) 11:44, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
Yes, and that only further proves my point. The only source from 1993 that names the crook says Crazy Charlie, while Jailbreak Joe is reserved for the later minifigures from 1995 onward... unless I'm missing something (and if I am, then please show it to me). Normally, I'd agree with you that they're the same character with different names, but without any direct irrefutable evidence saying Charlie and Joe are the same guy, I'd say it's absolutely plausible for them to be separate characters. Their designs are generic enough by LEGO standards (especially given numerous other instances of similar-but-different characters), and it's perfectly believable that there's more than just one crook running around LEGO Town.
However, I'll request that if you wish to continue this debate, it would be on Talk:Crazy Charlie or Talk:Jailbreak Joe instead of my personal talk page. --PeabodySam (talk) 01:21, 7 June 2021 (UTC)